So at least you admit you are irritated. That's good

because maybe you will wake up and see the danger you are in and get saved from Hell before it's too late

So at least you admit you are irritated. That's good, because maybe you will wake up and see the danger you are in and get saved from Hell before it's too late.

Now, if it irritates you that I'm not likely to read more than a few words from you, and I have read no farther in your post here than what I have responded to, then be irritated.

Bob, the Bible talks a lot about fools........no point in arguing with them. If you want evidence Hell is real, you don't have to pester me about it, just wait and you will get your evidence.

If you want to be an animal, then by all means be an animal. That means you are no better than the turkey I ate on Thanksgiving day. I'm a man, made in the image of God. You can be a turkey if you want to.

There's no nice way to say it, this is stupid. If the universe were eternal, it would break down through entropy. It must have had a beginning as it is undergoing entropy, the entropy started at a point in time........and it wasn't the stupid singularity which was nothing but it exploded and tuned into you.

The Bible answered this stupidity 2000 years ago......."they worship and serve the creature (created thing) rather than the creator". You're trying to equate the universe with God, the created thing with the creator. There is no comparison.

at least I don't see you cussing, but it still seems like you are bitter and grumpy and it's tiring so I don't much read your stuff anymore.

You don't want evidence, you want to believe you have the right to exist outside of Hell and only the fire of Hell with you in it can make you doubt your rock head

You want evidence that Hell is real, and sinners don't get out of it, just wait, you'll get your evidence the hard way. fool

See my friend, the way you have acted toward God, can you blame Him if He leaves you in Hell? You can, but it won't get you out. In Proverbs it says God will laugh at your calamity, and not hear when you cry out to Him because you rejected all of His counsel.

There are several people on here I do everything I can to get them to leave me alone, and you seem to want to be in that club, so why don't you take a hike?

why don't you go take a long hike, come back in ten years or so if the Lord gives you that much time, and see if I miss your attention you jerk

I assume you are something resembling the northbound end of a southbound cow.

I say it is, you say it's not...........what are we talking about? This is pitiful, it's becoming more and more childish. You have to prove you have the right to live outside of Hell, or you burn in Hell forever, believe it or not. I'll leave you with that. Have fun trying to make God void and deny Him of Justice

Hell is the point of your contention, you are contending that you have the right to live outside of Hell. Prove it. Your dying proves you wrong, but go ahead and try to prove you have the right to exist outside of Hell. You're going to find out you are wrong, there is no need for me to prove anything. Believe it or not.

You want God to be gone so Hell is gone, and your life is justified and your death is ok. Wrongo, Bobby boy.....death is justice and your life is lost, and God is still on His throne and Hell still confines sinners and you will be there before too long if you won't repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Prove me wrong, find out for yourself.

Your willful ignorance precludes evidence, so go on and try to prove you have the right to live outside of Hell. I don't need to be here, don't really want to bother watching you destroy yourself.

Excuse me whiner, please show where I preached about how they are to treat each other? Or are you lying, liar? And bonehead, if you will read the gospels, you'll see that Jesus was very blunt and repeated his warnings of Hell when he dealt with those who hate Him.

What good is love if evil is tolerated? What good is your lying rant on me? Liar, liar, pants are on fire.

So you have rested your case against God. It doesn't freak me out. I saw a little girl get killed by a car on the street, I'm sure she was not cursing God or asking for proof of Hell.......that was around ten years ago. My brother was killed on his motorcycle when I was 28, by an apparent drunk driver, hit and run, police could not prove it was that guy but we know it was him. One of my other brother's best friends brother was killed on the street by a car right in front of the house where I was hanging with buddies......we ran out to the street at the sound, we thought it was my other brother laying there, same hair......but it was my other brother's best friend's brother. My best friend's step brother was killed on that same stretch of road around that time......a real joker that guy was though he was seriously reading his Bible and trying to figure things out. A cousin of mine, 26 years old and seemingly healthy as a horse, dropped dead on the sidewalk as he was jogging. I could go on and on with true stories like this, and many more from the experiences of other people I know...many who were flatly told today could be their last chance to be saved and then they went out rejecting the Savior and were killed that very night in an accident. Some of the people here who got mad at me and then disappeared after I told they why and how to be saved......and I wonder where they went.

A friend of mine was driving when a thunderstorm was starting to kick up...guy riding his bike on the sidewalk as my friend was driving pass........suddenly BOOM!!! Lightning bold crashed right next to the guy on that bicycle. My friend rolled down his window and yelled as the shocked face on the bike, "SOMEBODY"S TRYING TO GET YOUR ATTENTION!!" The guy who yelled that is a fairly well known gospel singer, worked in home services on some extremely famous people's homes in the tri-country area, I can't name names but you would be impressed.....not sure if my singer buddy is still alive, old friend of my family.

I faced death more than once myself....gun pointed at my head, accidents, assaults, robberies....once I got robbed and beat up by a gang, as they strolled away knowing the police would come before long I yelled some good old fashioned Hell fire and brimstone preaching at them, told them they better get saved the same as I tell you. Your time is counting down to zero, and zero may come at any moment. Then, if you have not yet believed, you will get the proof you imply God is unable to deliver to you. Oh yeah, another true story I have to throw in here....the son of a friend of mine gets a knock in his door one day. Opens the door and there stands the man who a few days prior said they were working on organizing neighborhood watch......standing there with a shotgun pointed at my friend's son, was just a robber who cased victims by using the neighborhood watch story. The son lived but got maimed when he put up a fight.

And again, comparing Hell to dragon land is a straw man argument. Who cares if they wake up in dragon land? So they can be dragon fighters. Big deal. If Dragon land is real, who cares?. The only place you really don't want to be is in eternal fire frying like eternal sausage. The threat of Dragon land is not a valid comparison to Hell. Hell is the only place you really want to believe is imaginary and not real. Any other place would not be so bad to be concerned about. It's the same thing comparing God to the Flying Spaghetti Monster or Zeus.......who cares if those straw men are real? It's only God you really care about dispelling. Whenever people argue against God, they create a straw-man version which is not God but rather has faults and weaknesses which God has none of. That's what you are doing with places that are less than Hell and gods which are less than God.

It is not my job to prove God or Hell are real. It is my job to try to tell people how they can be saved. There is nothing I can do if you will not believe. There is plenty of evidence, plenty of reason to believe; dying should tell you that you need to be saved from dying, and common sense should tell you only God can save you.......and then reason should tell you that your sin has to be paid for and God Himself paid with His own blood because He loves you and wants you to be forgiven.....and then the goodness of God should lead you to repent of your sin because He is being patient with you and giving you time after you cursed Him.

You've stated your case against God and have rested your case I guess. Now it's only a matter of time before God answers you, isn't it? You think He won't answer? I hope you have time to think again. You can't expect God to be patient with you forever, He's already given you much more time than you deserve the way you taunt Him. I don't know why God allowed me to live the way I acted when I was younger, don't know why he kept me from getting killed or crippled so many times.....except that He had a plan for me of better things than I can make for myself. He has a plan for you also, but you are denying God so He can't give you His blessings and yet He is giving you time.....not wanting you to be in Hell. We both would be burning in Hell now if we got what we really deserve. It in only by the mercy of God that we are not consumed. The only thing new in this world is God's mercy..every moment of time we have is a gift we do not deserve. We are on borrowed time, and there is a reckoning coming. God Himself paid the price of our time as sinners, paid with His own blood on the cross so He is righteous to spare us judgment for a time, and righteous to condemn us in Hell forever if we will not seek His pardon believing He is risen from the dead.

So these things I'm saying should be for you a rebuke from God, a hint of a sign of Judgement coming, but God will not force you to hear or to see. If you want a reality void of God's correction and void of God's goodness, then you won't be corrected and you will find nothing to indicate any sign from God that He is good...He is giving you what you want, but the only place you can really have what you want now is in the fire of Hell and God really does not want to give you what you want or you would be there now........and the only reason anybody rejects God is because of their own lusts for money, sex, or power, they don't want God telling them what to do or what not to do; so there is no way they can know the blessings of God........and God says "peace, peace, to them that are afar, and to them that are near", but you wont have it, will you? You love the pleasures of feeling strong and great and independent more than you love life, don't you? You just want to do your own thing and defy God all the way into eternity, don't you? If you rest your case this way forever, there will be no rest for you in Hell, sorry friend.

Jace is a sodomite who hopes to escape reality in death.. I don't read his stuff and I'm not reading yours. I insist you prove you have the right to remain outside of Hell. If you believe there is no Hell, that does not prove you have the right to remain outside of if. I also insist you prove you are not a fool. If you say there is no God, you are a fool. I insist ............ah, I insist is a joke. You are not God, go insist somewhere else.

I'm going to insist that you find proof of Hell, and I know you will. Don't believe me? Not my problem, Bob.

So much for that miracle, I figured it was only an illusion.

It's you again? I'm glad to see you are not in Hell................................................

You're not discussing the subject with me anymore? A MIRACLE!!! A woman letting a man have the last word. wow

Keep insisting you don't need to be saved and see if you wake up in Hell. You say you are ok with death, prove it. As long as you are running your mouth, you have not proved it. See if you don't wake up in Hell.

if you are going to divide woman into two words, it would be "woah, man"...or "woe man"

God made man in his own image, and then rested. God made woe man, and nobody has rested since.

You have to consider that I find you funny and your compromise with evolution and big bang belief heretical. I still have not seen you respond in any way to my request for your comments on Exodus 20:1 & 11

You don't want the evidence or you would use your lazy ignorant fingers and do a little googling of "science against the big bang and billions of years of time".

Why don't you go take a long flying leap and see if you don't end up in Hell? Or take a long walk, maybe a hundred years long, and see if does not lead you to Hell? Have a nice trip. Arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall, and it's a lot more fun talking to my dog although I do get a kick out of how you grind your teeth over me pointing out your futility.

Do you expect me to pull Hell out of my back pocket and stick in your face? The proof you are asking for is coming, and you'll be sorry you get it after insisting it is not possible. Believe it or not.

If you think you have the right to exist outside of Hell, prove it for yourself, I already know you are wrong.

Your doctrine is false and I'm going to speak against it and I get a kick out of pointing out how the woman is not supposed to usurp authority over the man as you try to tell me what to do, how to think, and how to act.

There is no need to compromise with big bang or evolution believers, there is no need to believe in those things for study and research in any area or science. When you believe in those things, you have to change the Bible and that compromise denies the power of God and divides Christians....it's your crowd responsible for the division as the word of God plainly states, God Himself speaking, that He created the heaven and the earth and all that is in them in six days. True science requires no belief contrary to the literal six days of Creation.

It's a mistake to tell scientists that the lies they believe regarding the big bang and evolution can be supported by the Bible. You might was well toss your Bible out the window.

oh great, she can't hold consistent biblical doctrine and now she's doing a do ce do dance.

YOU HAVE SINNED AGAINST GOD, HE HAS THE RIGHT TO KILL YOU AND LEAVE YOU IN HELL FOREVER, IT IS ONLY BECAUSE HE IS MERCIFUL THAT YOU ARE NOT BURNING IN HELL NOW WHEN YOU HATE GOD AND WANT HIM OUT OF YOUR LIFE YOU FOOLS AND IDIOTS. GET SAVED BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE AND YOU WAKE UP IN HELL.

You're funny. ..................................................................................

Please, quit trying to tell me that you wear pants better than men do.

that's good. Now explain why Paul said the woman should not usurp authority over the man, because the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

And I'm sure you are referencing Deborah, who rubbed it in the face of the man who was supposed to be trusting God and taking the lead when she took the lead for battle. It was a disgrace that Deborah had to do it, and she shamed the man who was supposed to do it.

The woman in the garden lost control by being deceived. Women tend to want power in order to regain control, hence the feminazis demanding "equality". The man in the garden lost respect because he was not deceived and knew exactly what he was doing when he disobeyed God. Men generally want respect, and women gain power by refusing to respect men. Then the women get mad and start wearing pants and shoulder pads.

I don't believe anything you say, Bob .

You're on your way to Hell, Bob. I don't have to prove it, it's being proved.....and you will know it sooner or later. You're a fool, Bob

Why do you want to argue? As long as you are arguing outside of Hell, you think you have proof of your right to exist outside of Hell? you're losing it, Bob.

You want proof now? God is going to give it to you. How stupid can you be to say "prove it".

Who told you that you are smarter than God? You're not even smarter than the devil

You're a blooming idiot. I'm proving you are on your way to Hell, and you say you are not on your way to Hell. We'll see who is wrong, won't we?

I"m pointing at the place you are going, it's Hell. You will see, I'm proving it by letting you go there.....and really, you want proof and being in the fire is the only way you will believe so go ahead and go.

You say there is no Hell, the only way you can prove it is by dying and seeing for yourself. Asking me to believe you is silly. You have no choice but to find out for yourself, and you are trying to avoid your burden of proof. I'm not asking for proof, you are. I'm not asking you to prove there is no Hell, you are telling me there is none so PROVE IT YOU IDIOT. Go prove it. Take a flying leap and see where you land.

The only evidence of Hell you will accept is to find yourself unable to get out of the fire. You want proof? It's coming. Just wait and see. Demanding proof now is asking for God to execute and leave you in Hell now. You're a fool.

Yes, conscience is unique to man and being deceived is unique to woman.

Prior to you being in existence, God was there and you were not. After your death is finalized, God will be there and you will be in Heaven or Hell. If you don't believe it, prove me wrong. Try getting out, make it your life goal.

You haven't the slightest clue how to argue do you? ;

You're the one asking for proof, I think you have the burden to find it....and you will sooner or later get the proof you say is not there. All I have to do is let you find out for yourself...have a nice trip.

You are dying and you say there is no proof of Hell. The burden of proof is on you to verify your assertion. I don't have to prove anything, you can find out for yourself....fool.

You who suffers from inequality! You are a complete sinner who is in danger of Hell and needs to be saved. God is the Savior, Jesus Christ is His name, He died for you, paid your price with His own blood offering you forgiveness as He is risen from the dead and able and willing to forgive all of your sin if you will agree you deserve to die and burn in Hell, repent of all your sin, and turn away from it to the Living God and let him be your life. Repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved from Hell. He (or she, which probably is you since you seem to feel unequal) who believes on the Son is passed from death into life everlasting. He (or she) that believes not is condemned.

For this reply, I want to focus on one of your many assertions which you carry the burden of proof for.

"Because all of us non-believers--atheists--DO exist. We live and think and reason and have all the inherent rights of life as do you."

My friend, I am glad you exist. I'm glad everybody exists. I'm glad my enemies exist. We all have the right to exist because God caused us to exist and the right to exist cannot be denied or taken away. It's God's gift. But don't you see, none of us has the right to live, it is right that we should die. We all deserve to die and we are all dying. If we had the right to live, we would not be dying. I understand the US Constitution or the Declaration of Independence says we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights such as life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, but in reality we have none of those rights. If we have the right to live, be free, or pursue happiness, then who do we sue when we are deprived of life, freedom, or our ability to pursue happiness?

I like to focus my arguments on simple common sense logic based on truth. Jesus said "I am the truth", and "if you continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed, and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free". True freedom comes only from God and is not lost in death. We do not have an inherent right to life. Time is a gift we do not deserve. If we have the right to it, or if we deserve it, that's means it's unfair that it ends......so who do we sue over it when a loved one is taking away and they stand around singing "Undertaker, undertake, won't you please drive slow. For the body, you're a haulin', oh I hate to see it go. Will the circle be unbroken by and by, Lord, by and by? I have never heard of them standing around trying to figure out how to sue God for not giving them their rights.

Oh, and I scanned through your many assertions and see you again comparing Hell to Oz or Mount Olympus. Who cares if we must to to Oz or if we have no right to climb mount Olympus? I don't care if those places are real, they won't bother me. The only place you really care to deny is Hell. Who cares if La La land is real, who cares if the dark side of the moon is where lunatics hide at night before they come out to attack during full moons? Let's suppose they do.......so what? can't do anything about it, can I? why should I? death is going to take this body down one way or another, why should I care if I have to go to Oz or the dark side of the moon or Narnia or NeverNever land (though that one would be very scary thinking I'd be in Michael Jackson's lair, I really do hope I have the right to exist outside of that place forever.). The only place we really want to believe we have the right to exist outside of is Hell. Any place other than Hell would not be so bad as Hell, and that would be ok and much desired by people who are in Hell now.

It's the same as comparing God to Zeus or the Filleted Spaghetti Monster or the Wizard of Oz........who cares if those things are real? If they are all real right now, that's ok with me (though of course we know they are real only in cartoons). God is not like those things. Those things we are ok with. It's only God who you really want to deny. If Zeus or the Flayed Spaghetti Monster or the Wizard of Oz are really out there somewhere over the rainbow where skies are blue, the only thing you don't want to be there is God who made all things. Your Narnia or Zeus argument is a straw man argument.

Nope, sorry, the burden of proof for the reality of Hell is not on me, I'm not asking for it, I don't need it. The people who say they need proof of Hell carry the burdn of finding that proof....and they generally don't want it and can only get it when it is forced upon them.

It's not my job to prove the reality of Hell. If you really want proof of Hell, just get down on your knees and say, "God, I think you are an idiot. You can't prove Hell is real". Pray that same prayer every day you have the ability and mental capacity to do it, and one day you will wake up in Hell and have your proof and you wont' be asking for proof anymore. The burden is not mine. The burden is on the person who says there is no Hell and their burden is to try to prove it for themselves....and they'll carry that burden to the grave if they have to die to get proof of Hell.

ORRRRR, just do nothing and wait and see, make no prayer, don't try to provoke God, just do nothing and keep telling yourself there is no Hell. I don't have to prove you wrong, you can find out for yourself, can't you?

Your rejection of truth does not make your ignorance my burden of proof. Prove for yourself if there is no Hell as you believe, and there is only one way you can prove that......take a flying leap and see if you don't end up in the fire. I have no burden of proof, it's on you, not me. I'm walking away, you are not my burden.