Honestly i get where ATYPIC is coming from. i myself do not believe in any deity. what im taking from his comments is this; people will believe whatever they choose - although there is no physical proof for any known deities it is illogical to think the beliefs of those who worship certain deities isnt proof in itself. once we acknowledge this fact we can then argue the flaws and detrimental effects of said deity.

Isn't that the plan though - perfection among Gods creation - wasn't this perfection the 'Garden'- isn't that the promise of heaven