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UpForDebate(25) Clarified
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You are mainly discussing worldly issues here. They said that the universe was fine-tuned, not that the people in the world were perfect or that life is easy. You were definitely not getting the point that they were attempting to get across.

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"If your God is righteous then why hasn't evil been abolished?"

God created the universe as a perfect place, but Adam and Eve fell into sin. God gave everyone free will. In other words, He gave us a choice. We tend to choose evil over all other things. We are immoral, sinful beings that need a Saviour. God gave us a choice so that He would be worshipped by truly willing beings. It makes glory all the more amazing. You are blinded by your bias thinking and that will, sadly, get you ended up in Hell.

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Just because there is a God outside of the universe, doesn't mean that one doesn't exist.

Your argument is blinded by what you want to believe.

There are things that we will never be able to understand, that doesn't mean that things don't exist.

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God is all powerful and all knowing. He has created all things and all matter. You are not able to fathom the creativity of our all-knowing Father. You could never possibly understand why God does a lot of what He does. But He is God, He has to explain NOTHING to you, or me, or anyone else. He doesn't need air. Just because He created us in his image doesn't mean we have the same functions as He does. Keep in mind the word 'image' doesn't mean ways we survive or live. He created all planets and moons, and comets to show His imagination and creativity. All things, in the end, are a way to glorify Him and to show us more proof for the evidence of our God.

Your hate-speech towards God will destroy you in the end, and keep you in eternal separation from Him. I pray that someday the scales will be removed from your eyes. God bless you ;)

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The universe has not always existed, this has been scientifically proven. The universe is slowly shrinking, dying out, contracting, etc. The point is, it will come to an end.

Think of it this way: A flashlight has batteries, energy, right? Let's say the flashlight is on. The flashlight is slowly dying out and growing less bright. It can not have been on since the beginning of time. (Ignoring the fact that flashlights had not been invented yet. This is purely hypothetical.) If it had, it would have already run out of energy. Just like how the universe is slowly dying out, and running out of energy.

If the universe was eternal, it would have died out by now. But since the universe is not eternal, it still has life left and is using it up until, undeniably, it will come to a definite end.

I'm hoping you saw where I was going with this. Explanation is not my strong suit.

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You feel guilt for a reason. Not because you didn't do anything. We feel guilt because we have sinned. Your argument is a pretty sad one. You don't feel guilt because "it's in your genes". Learn to debate, then come back.

UpForDebate(25) Clarified
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Like I said to the other guy, this is a very sad argument. You are gonna get torn up in the real world. You want to make your point and win, right? Well, you are failing. I recommend learning a bit more about debate then coming back. I hope you continue to make points (And this time good ones). I hate to seem rude, for I am on your side, but this argument just won't cut it out there.

UpForDebate(25) Clarified
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I'm gonna tell you this as kindly as possible. I too am a theist, but this is a very...sad argument. If you use this argument in a real debate, atheists will chew you up and spit you out.

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Do you feel guilt when you have done certain wrongs? It's because you sinned. What? Do you think that you feel guilt for no apparent reason? No, you don't. So, if your not a sinner, then why do you feel guilt, huh? Tell me that.

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Biblical errors? The Bible does not have "Biblical errors". And if it does, I would like to give me just one. That's all, it's not that hard.

UpForDebate(25) Clarified
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Your side is theism yet you say God is not good? It is clearly mentioned in the Bible that God is good. Luke 18:19 - "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good - Except God alone). And God does not make mistakes. He is perfect. A perfect being does not make "mistakes". Also, I hope you are talking about micro-evolution and not macro-evolution, because macro-evolution has no proof.

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An all powerful God doesn't have to show himself to us. And a righteous God would have to punish any unrighteousness. And God created us to have the choice of belief in him, so obviously anyone who doesn't accept his truth is unrighteous in his sight, therefore, he must punish it with eternal separation from him. Does that tell you what you need to know?



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