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Do you expect me to pull Hell out of my back pocket and stick in your face? The proof you are asking for is coming, and you'll be sorry you get it after insisting it is not possible. Believe it or not.

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If you think you have the right to exist outside of Hell, prove it for yourself, I already know you are wrong.

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Your doctrine is false and I'm going to speak against it and I get a kick out of pointing out how the woman is not supposed to usurp authority over the man as you try to tell me what to do, how to think, and how to act.

There is no need to compromise with big bang or evolution believers, there is no need to believe in those things for study and research in any area or science. When you believe in those things, you have to change the Bible and that compromise denies the power of God and divides Christians....it's your crowd responsible for the division as the word of God plainly states, God Himself speaking, that He created the heaven and the earth and all that is in them in six days. True science requires no belief contrary to the literal six days of Creation.

It's a mistake to tell scientists that the lies they believe regarding the big bang and evolution can be supported by the Bible. You might was well toss your Bible out the window.

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
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oh great, she can't hold consistent biblical doctrine and now she's doing a do ce do dance.

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
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YOU HAVE SINNED AGAINST GOD, HE HAS THE RIGHT TO KILL YOU AND LEAVE YOU IN HELL FOREVER, IT IS ONLY BECAUSE HE IS MERCIFUL THAT YOU ARE NOT BURNING IN HELL NOW WHEN YOU HATE GOD AND WANT HIM OUT OF YOUR LIFE YOU FOOLS AND IDIOTS. GET SAVED BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE AND YOU WAKE UP IN HELL.

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You're funny. ..................................................................................

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Please, quit trying to tell me that you wear pants better than men do.

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
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that's good. Now explain why Paul said the woman should not usurp authority over the man, because the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

And I'm sure you are referencing Deborah, who rubbed it in the face of the man who was supposed to be trusting God and taking the lead when she took the lead for battle. It was a disgrace that Deborah had to do it, and she shamed the man who was supposed to do it.

The woman in the garden lost control by being deceived. Women tend to want power in order to regain control, hence the feminazis demanding "equality". The man in the garden lost respect because he was not deceived and knew exactly what he was doing when he disobeyed God. Men generally want respect, and women gain power by refusing to respect men. Then the women get mad and start wearing pants and shoulder pads.

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I don't believe anything you say, Bob .

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You're on your way to Hell, Bob. I don't have to prove it, it's being proved.....and you will know it sooner or later. You're a fool, Bob

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Why do you want to argue? As long as you are arguing outside of Hell, you think you have proof of your right to exist outside of Hell? you're losing it, Bob.

You want proof now? God is going to give it to you. How stupid can you be to say "prove it".

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Who told you that you are smarter than God? You're not even smarter than the devil

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You're a blooming idiot. I'm proving you are on your way to Hell, and you say you are not on your way to Hell. We'll see who is wrong, won't we?

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I"m pointing at the place you are going, it's Hell. You will see, I'm proving it by letting you go there.....and really, you want proof and being in the fire is the only way you will believe so go ahead and go.

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You say there is no Hell, the only way you can prove it is by dying and seeing for yourself. Asking me to believe you is silly. You have no choice but to find out for yourself, and you are trying to avoid your burden of proof. I'm not asking for proof, you are. I'm not asking you to prove there is no Hell, you are telling me there is none so PROVE IT YOU IDIOT. Go prove it. Take a flying leap and see where you land.

The only evidence of Hell you will accept is to find yourself unable to get out of the fire. You want proof? It's coming. Just wait and see. Demanding proof now is asking for God to execute and leave you in Hell now. You're a fool.

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Yes, conscience is unique to man and being deceived is unique to woman.

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Prior to you being in existence, God was there and you were not. After your death is finalized, God will be there and you will be in Heaven or Hell. If you don't believe it, prove me wrong. Try getting out, make it your life goal.

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You haven't the slightest clue how to argue do you? ;

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You're the one asking for proof, I think you have the burden to find it....and you will sooner or later get the proof you say is not there. All I have to do is let you find out for yourself...have a nice trip.

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You are dying and you say there is no proof of Hell. The burden of proof is on you to verify your assertion. I don't have to prove anything, you can find out for yourself....fool.

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You who suffers from inequality! You are a complete sinner who is in danger of Hell and needs to be saved. God is the Savior, Jesus Christ is His name, He died for you, paid your price with His own blood offering you forgiveness as He is risen from the dead and able and willing to forgive all of your sin if you will agree you deserve to die and burn in Hell, repent of all your sin, and turn away from it to the Living God and let him be your life. Repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved from Hell. He (or she, which probably is you since you seem to feel unequal) who believes on the Son is passed from death into life everlasting. He (or she) that believes not is condemned.

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For this reply, I want to focus on one of your many assertions which you carry the burden of proof for.

"Because all of us non-believers--atheists--DO exist. We live and think and reason and have all the inherent rights of life as do you."

My friend, I am glad you exist. I'm glad everybody exists. I'm glad my enemies exist. We all have the right to exist because God caused us to exist and the right to exist cannot be denied or taken away. It's God's gift. But don't you see, none of us has the right to live, it is right that we should die. We all deserve to die and we are all dying. If we had the right to live, we would not be dying. I understand the US Constitution or the Declaration of Independence says we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights such as life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, but in reality we have none of those rights. If we have the right to live, be free, or pursue happiness, then who do we sue when we are deprived of life, freedom, or our ability to pursue happiness?

I like to focus my arguments on simple common sense logic based on truth. Jesus said "I am the truth", and "if you continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed, and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free". True freedom comes only from God and is not lost in death. We do not have an inherent right to life. Time is a gift we do not deserve. If we have the right to it, or if we deserve it, that's means it's unfair that it ends......so who do we sue over it when a loved one is taking away and they stand around singing "Undertaker, undertake, won't you please drive slow. For the body, you're a haulin', oh I hate to see it go. Will the circle be unbroken by and by, Lord, by and by? I have never heard of them standing around trying to figure out how to sue God for not giving them their rights.

Oh, and I scanned through your many assertions and see you again comparing Hell to Oz or Mount Olympus. Who cares if we must to to Oz or if we have no right to climb mount Olympus? I don't care if those places are real, they won't bother me. The only place you really care to deny is Hell. Who cares if La La land is real, who cares if the dark side of the moon is where lunatics hide at night before they come out to attack during full moons? Let's suppose they do.......so what? can't do anything about it, can I? why should I? death is going to take this body down one way or another, why should I care if I have to go to Oz or the dark side of the moon or Narnia or NeverNever land (though that one would be very scary thinking I'd be in Michael Jackson's lair, I really do hope I have the right to exist outside of that place forever.). The only place we really want to believe we have the right to exist outside of is Hell. Any place other than Hell would not be so bad as Hell, and that would be ok and much desired by people who are in Hell now.

It's the same as comparing God to Zeus or the Filleted Spaghetti Monster or the Wizard of Oz........who cares if those things are real? If they are all real right now, that's ok with me (though of course we know they are real only in cartoons). God is not like those things. Those things we are ok with. It's only God who you really want to deny. If Zeus or the Flayed Spaghetti Monster or the Wizard of Oz are really out there somewhere over the rainbow where skies are blue, the only thing you don't want to be there is God who made all things. Your Narnia or Zeus argument is a straw man argument.

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Nope, sorry, the burden of proof for the reality of Hell is not on me, I'm not asking for it, I don't need it. The people who say they need proof of Hell carry the burdn of finding that proof....and they generally don't want it and can only get it when it is forced upon them.

It's not my job to prove the reality of Hell. If you really want proof of Hell, just get down on your knees and say, "God, I think you are an idiot. You can't prove Hell is real". Pray that same prayer every day you have the ability and mental capacity to do it, and one day you will wake up in Hell and have your proof and you wont' be asking for proof anymore. The burden is not mine. The burden is on the person who says there is no Hell and their burden is to try to prove it for themselves....and they'll carry that burden to the grave if they have to die to get proof of Hell.

ORRRRR, just do nothing and wait and see, make no prayer, don't try to provoke God, just do nothing and keep telling yourself there is no Hell. I don't have to prove you wrong, you can find out for yourself, can't you?

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Your rejection of truth does not make your ignorance my burden of proof. Prove for yourself if there is no Hell as you believe, and there is only one way you can prove that......take a flying leap and see if you don't end up in the fire. I have no burden of proof, it's on you, not me. I'm walking away, you are not my burden.


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