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Science has proven the bible to be possibly correct in the assumption of Genesis and the creation of the heavens and the earth. In fact bible says 6,000 years old our earth is. But scientist say we are 4.5 billion as with the planets in our system. Titan cannot be 4.5 billion years old because of one simple reason. Methane still exists on the surface of titan which defies all known laws of physics and chemical properties. We all know that solar radiation turns methane into ethane when collided. Ethane being heavier will sink to the surface so after 4.5 billion years there should be no methane on Titan only ethane due to the solar wind. The Hugyens lander landed on Titan in 2005 and made a discovery that still has NASA stumped today. There is no ocean of ethane as predicted from known and recorded methane and solar bombardment. No ethane at all for a moon billions of years old. After only 50 million years the methane of Titan should have been depleted. This scientific data points to a much younger Titan of 5 to 8 thousand years old verses 4.5 billion. This is properly in line with biblical scripture from Genesis.

2 points

A strong atheist cannot prove anything about the universe or its creation or the existence of GOD Here is why.

A skeptic or atheist is governed by two main principles: 1) all beliefs must be supported by observational evidence, and 2) beliefs that contradict observational evidence cannot be tolerated. However, strong atheism states that there is no god, even though observational evidence indicates that the universe has a cause that cannot be detected observationally. So despite the lack of observational evidence for a naturalistic cause for the universe, the strong atheist believes that the universe has a naturalistic cause and that there is no god, contradicting the tenet that all beliefs should be based upon observational evidence. Hmmmm kind of like finding DNA in a 450 million year old fossil. Impossible to have a fossil 450 million years old with DNA still active. DNA has half life of 521 years and is undetectable due to decay after only 50,000. Clear indication that science is proving the existence of GOD without atheist help. In fact science is severely hurting the atheist cause. So it is pointless to ask a atheist to prove the existence of GOD, it is much better to use there own science against them because for the first time since old Darwin came along with his now debunked theory, science is proving biblical scripture to be very accurate.

3 points

My references are at the bottom. Yes GOD does exist. Scientific data has been slowly and steadily proving many biblical scriptures to be a truthful reality. For example, according to Genesis the earth is just over 6,000 years old. Science has stated the earth and the planetary bodies in our solar system are 4.53 billion years old. Either creationism or naturalistic atheist way is wrong. We can’t have both. Consider this then; Titan, one of Saturn’s many moons, is covered in kilometer thick 4.5 percent methane atmosphere along with 94 percent nitrogen and other trace elements. Scientific data has proven that solar radiation when bombarding methane changes the methane into a heavy hydrocarbon called ethane (C2H6). Since Titan has a sub zero temperature any ethane would drop to the surface and create oceans of ethane maybe miles deep. This data was published in 1980. In 2005 the Huygens Lander set down on Titan and proved something very strange. Huygens recorded that there was not much ethane on Titans surface. Being 4.5 billion years old calculations have indicated there would be no methane at all only ethane on the surface. This odd phenomenon as scientist dubbed it points to a Titan that is 5 to 8 thousand years old rather than 4.5 billion. Here science has indicated that abundant methane there is evidence for a younger Titan, while scientists insist there is some natural phenomenon to explain why the methane is still there. This young Titan falls in line with biblical scripture in Genesis. In correcting its own deficiencies and errors, science is proving the existence of GOD and the truthfulness of scripture. There is much more to consider also, such as DNA being extracted from a 450 million year old fossil. DNA has a shelf life of 50,000 years under ideal storage conditions. How then can a fossil contain DNA if it is 450 million years old? This and other questions need to be answered and science is not doing a very good job. It is time to rethink the way we do our thinking.

References:

G. Lindal et al. (1983). "The atmosphere of Titan: An analysis of the Voyager 1 radio occultation measurements". Icarus 53 (2): 348–363.

Staff (April 3, 2013). "NASA team investigates complex chemistry at Titan". Phys.Org.

Coustenis, A. (2005). "Formation and evolution of Titan’s atmosphere". Space Science Reviews 116 (1-2): 171–184

6 points

My references are at the bottom. Yes GOD does exist. Scientific data has been slowly and steadily proving many biblical scriptures to be a truthful reality. For example, according to Genesis the earth is just over 6,000 years old. Science has stated the earth and the planetary bodies in our solar system are 4.53 billion years old. Either creationism or naturalistic atheist way is wrong. We can’t have both. Consider this then; Titan, one of Saturn’s many moons, is covered in kilometer thick 4.5 percent methane atmosphere along with 94 percent nitrogen and other trace elements. Scientific data has proven that solar radiation when bombarding methane changes the methane into a heavy hydrocarbon called ethane (C2H6). Since Titan has a sub zero temperature any ethane would drop to the surface and create oceans of ethane maybe miles deep. This data was published in 1980. In 2005 the Huygens Lander set down on Titan and proved something very strange. Huygens recorded that there was not much ethane on Titans surface. Being 4.5 billion years old calculations have indicated there would be no methane at all only ethane on the surface. This odd phenomenon as scientist dubbed it points to a Titan that is 5 to 8 thousand years old rather than 4.5 billion. Here science has indicated that abundant methane there is evidence for a younger Titan, while scientists insist there is some natural phenomenon to explain why the methane is still there. This young Titan falls in line with biblical scripture in Genesis. In correcting its own deficiencies and errors, science is proving the existence of GOD and the truthfulness of scripture. There is much more to consider also, such as DNA being extracted from a 450 million year old fossil. DNA has a shelf life of 50,000 years under ideal storage conditions. How then can a fossil contain DNA if it is 450 million years old? This and other questions need to be answered and science is not doing a very good job. It is time to rethink the way we do our thinking.

References:

G. Lindal et al. (1983). "The atmosphere of Titan: An analysis of the Voyager 1 radio occultation measurements". Icarus 53 (2): 348–363.

Staff (April 3, 2013). "NASA team investigates complex chemistry at Titan". Phys.Org.

Coustenis, A. (2005). "Formation and evolution of Titan’s atmosphere". Space Science Reviews 116 (1-2): 171–184



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