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If there was such a supreme being as God, why would he hide himself from the world? And if we're talking about the christian God, why would he not show himself, but give eternal hell to those who don't believe in the story.

There are so many details like this one, that don't fit.

Am I suppose to know that from the text on the screen? :-)

No, that's why I informed you that I was a woman.

What argument at all do you have that world is "well programed, accurate and well designed"?

The eye itself has 1 chance in 50.000 to be what it is. If there is one different thing about the eye, it doesn't work.

No man has succeeded in making a machine as well programmed as the human being.

Where have you seen that argument before? In your posting!!!!!!!!! Are you having sudden case of demens?

I thought you accused me of using arguments based on things I read. That is not true, but if you didn't accuse me of doing so then let's move on.

And your point by stating the obiouvs is?

I can't remember, it's been a while since I debated with you, sorry.

I think it was something about that when a cell reproduces itself, the reproduction of that can be defect, that doesn't mean that the cell it was reproduced from is defect.

Two people can have a child with a disorder or disability - does that mean the parents are disable too, or have the disability themselves? No.

Some reproductions can be defect, that doesn't change the perfection of the original design.

I am not a fanatic. yes you are.

Explain why you think of me as a fanatic.

that world is not very "well programmed" place

I disagree, the human is the most well programmed thing we know of.

So after all this discussion only think you can come up with is you original claim that everything is so well :-).

Yes, things are good, don't be such a pessimist. Yes disease, sickness, death, war and I could go on exist. But there is good too.

And don't throw the cancer thing back at me - don't judge people who try to see some good in this world. Thank goodness some of the people here actually can see the benefits of life, instead of the bad stuff that it contains.

If there weren't bad things, we couldn't enjoy the good.

I am not irrational, I am human. I have no chance of escaping from the bad, so why not just try to see the good? You should try it some time.

Why? What proof do you have?

You should ask the other guy, who said that. What proof does he have to make such a statement? God probably doesn't exist, but does he undoubtily not exist? No.

No I didn't. You took up that about our cells being so well programmed, and I just disputed that claim, since it was clearly wrong. Unless you accept that all anomalies that our cell exhibit are also part of "well programmed" in your claim. But in that case it wouldn't be anomaly.

Because it is true.

Everything in works so well together.. everything just works and it is weird that it does.

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Well, someone on the other side said God almost undoubtily does not exist. This is a very wrong assumption to make, because there is just as much chance that he does exist, than that he doesn't.

You disputed my argument with a total different thing, asking me about my belief - I answered.

it still does not proof there is God.

I didn't say that.

I never intended to prove God, even though it seems as if you think I was.

I don't feel the need to prove what I believe to anyone.

I say that life creates life. It happeneds every day man - it is called births!

But if life created life, what created the first life?

For the Christ man, these are your words:

Just look at the human body, how well programmed it is, look inside a human cell, watch the DNA and how accurate and well designed it is.

I am a woman, thank you.

I said it is well programmed, accurate and well designed. Is that necessarily perfect?

It does not; your shirt analogy is just bisarre exampel of a person who obviously has seen that argument somewhere and bought it naively and can't go beyond just repeating it blindly.

Where have you seen that argument before?

No it is not appropriate analogy, because according to you God would create each and every of human cells over and over and over again from the blueprint which we know does not happen. At least I am created by my parents, but maybe you are made in a laboratory who knows.

Cells reproduce, not produce.

Your shirt analogy would imply that god sits all days long and prints humans, animals, rocks, trees, planets and everything else each and every day and sometimes he fucks up since some are born with 6 fingers, but its ok according ot your theory, because everybody can make misstake; even allmighty god that created everything

Then you have misunderstood my analogy. I said God created one original thing, those things reproduce themselves, and those things can make an imperfect or defect copy.

it would certainly be better world without religious fanatics.

I am not a fanatic. I have never said my theory is the absolute truth. I have never said everyone should believe what I believe. Go throw that on somebody's elses face, thank you.

Because it makes more sense than your ID poop

Oh.. I see. Now it all makes sense. My opinion is wrong, because your opinion makes more sense to you.

Sorry dude, the world doesn't work that way. That's bad debating :)

That's like saying apples tastes better than oranges, because you think so.

it is called life.

So you say life created life?

cancer is gods creation and thus perfect

Why can't God create something imperfect? Why do you assume everything God makes is perfect?

but we know that cancer is ill-reproduced human cells because of imperfections in DNA.

Which proves my shirt analogy.

You reproduce something, and the reproduction is imperfect. Just because the reproduction is imperfect doesn't mean the original production is imperfect.

You agree that all cells are individual cells, right? So just because my cells are defected, does that mean yours are too?

No, each and every cell is an individual cell, a reproduction of the original thing. And the reproduction of that original cell can be defected, thus is that defected particular cell imperfect, not all cells.

If I have diabetes, does that mean because you are a fellow human being, you too have diabetes? No, we are two separate people with separate bodies and separate cells.

Instead you could realize that universe has always existed

You sound like you say your theory is absolutely true. Why do you want me to realize something you can't prove?

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