A Civil Religious Debate

Sorry, but premise 1 is faulty. There is no way of knowing if God is actually possible.

Just like Christians I didn't read your bible passages.

You aren't sure how dying 2 different ways is a contradiction?

Next time just say you can't do it.

So, since the stories on the Bible fit the scenario of liars, why do you believe it?

Matthew 27:5

Saying, 'I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood'. And they said, 'What is that to us? See thou to that.'

So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.

Acts 1:18

With the payment he received for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out.

I can find some more for you, but can you explain how someone can hang themselves if their intestines have spilled out?

There are inconsistencies in the Bible making it suspect as a piece of evidence. Saints are just nice people. Miracles are natural occurrences. The Bible provides several explanations that cannot be backed up with scientific data. Fossils, DNA, and geology all show the accounts in the Bible are false.

He didn't state an opinion, he stated a fact about what other people believe. Obviously my opinion is valid if he is going to make a statement about my opinion. Learn to read.

Show me this "section".

-None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?

If there aren't contradictions, why do you have substitutions in the Quran?

You are speaking of looking through the Quran for the creation of modern medicine, through a biological process, in a specific manner. If the Quran were to list every possible way of surgery and medicine and healing, as well as every minute detail of every single aspect of our lives, it would be an encyclopedia and not a Holy Book stating not how to do every little thing in our lives, but the morals and laws we should live by.

Dude, you can't defend the scientific knowledge in the Quran and also remind everyone there is no scientific knowledge in the Quran. It doesn't need to be a complete encyclopedia. Just one thing from Allah with perfect scientific detail would have been great.

Firstly, who are you to tell me how to use books, let alone Holy ones?

Who are you to tell me how to use books? You gave the incorrect way to use your book. Evidence: "but the morals and laws we should live by" you admitting it isn't about truth.

Second, why can't being a better person be part of truth? Are you saying that being a better person is only related to "fiction", and that rational people are not good people, and don't strive to be better?

I didn't say anything like that. Being a better person does not have to be based on truth. It can be, but in the case of religious texts it isn't supposed to be. They are stories to illustrate points. All I was saying is that one does not lead to the other or vice versa. I made no comment about rational people. It was actually irrational for you to bring that up.

I mean to tell you that I am a human of rationality.

Instead of telling me, actually act rational.

However, having looked into the Quran, I found that there are no contradictions, no vile thoughts or views. Not only that, but I found that it contained scientific breakthroughs that had only been discovered recently, while the Book had been written 1400 years back.

There is a section in the Quran that tells you if any part of the Quran contradicts itself use the later portion.

People may complain that the scientific knowledge in the Book are too "vague", but if one has it in his mind to disbelieve, he will.

If one has in his mind that he would like to know how biological processes work in a specific manner so that he can create modern medicine, he will avoid the vague Quran.

One must look upon the Books (Bible, Torah, Quran) in search of truth, not anything else.

You are using books that are supposed to help you be a better person, not to deliver the truth. You are using it wrong.