A Civil Religious Debate

You claimed you can't define things into existence. Liberals defined extra genders into existence

Why do you think i believe the same thing doesnt apply to them? Because youre a hack and a troll.

Its actually really funny the amount i actually agree with conservative trolls on this site but theyre just knee-jerk reactionary retards and total partisan hacks that they get 50 steps ahead of themselves

I hate islam way more than christianity. Difference is i run into 1 muslim for every 345654645 christians in my day to day life. Its the most pervasive religion in the country in terms of its influence on government and society. It immediately impacts me in real life. Islam just doesnt. But i recognize just objectively looking at christianity and islam in a vaccum of course islam is fucking monsterous compared to christianity.

That doesnt even make grammatical sense you moron. Extra genders are a cop out of what?

And its cute how you just assume I believe all of these social justice things by default like a partisan hack.

I believe extra genders are bullshit along with feminism and islam is a cancer on the planet and needs to die in any and all forms.

But if by "left wing islam" you mean "peaceful" islam then yeah it clearly does exist. Muslims in the US have one of the lowest crime rates in the country per 1000. Because theyre mostly secularized. They are mostly muslim by culture not by religious belief. Like most christians and jews. They call themselves christians and jews but never go to church or read the bible and they just celebrate the major holidays.

And then theres ahmadis who are a very very small sect of islam who are 100% non violent pacifists. Kind of like Buddhists. But i would also argue their religion has had so much alteration from fundamentalist sunni islam that its pretty much its own religion apart from islam at this point.

Its called nuance. You can say that islam itself is a shit religion that breeds hate, violence, real sexism, ect. While also recognizing that there are people who neuter their own religion and cherry pick out the bad stuff and live like normal people.

Thats a bullshit cop out and you know it. Youre just playing word games. You cant just define things into existence.

I could easily say Zeus is equal to truth. if you deny the existence of zeus you deny the existence of truth.

to which you would say "nu uh zeus isnt truth". and then the argument just regresses to "nu uh" "yeah huh" "nu uh".

Nevermind the fact that "truth" is just a concept invented by humans. Its a label assigned to statements. God is not a proposition its a single noun.

God creates plants before the light needed to sustain them. The world never flooded. Bushes can't speak. Etc.etc.etc

You're a fucking idiot. Get your dense religious ass out of this cite for intellectual debate.

You didn't answer the question.

It wasn't worth answering.

You said you would prefer being in Hell over being in Heaven with God.

If your god exists in the same way the bible describes him then yes I would rather be in hell than heaven with a monster who thinks a just punishment for incredulity is eternal torture.

God determines when your time is over, if you want I can pray that you get your wish.

And I can talk to my cat. We will get the same results.

Why should I care where you are going if you don't care....

Now you're getting it!

you want an eternity void of anything good from God, void of any sign that He is good, so why not ask me to pray that God give it to you quickly so you don't have to sit there and whine about your problems and smoke your brains out trying to live in a different reality?

It's not that I want hell. You misunderstand. If the options are either spend eternity kissing the ass of a monstrous being who would punish people with eternal hellfire for sins as unharmful as incredulity toward him, or eternity separated from that monster, I would of course choose the latter. Thing is, those aren't the options. As much as you believe they are. I don't think we go ANYWHERE when we die. You go in the dirt and your consciousness ends. That's it. So because of that I want to live my life on earth to the fullest. You see if this life is all I have, as I believe it is, then I have everything to live for. But if you believe you're going to an eternal paradise of love and rainbows and whatever then why don't YOU pray for YOU to die soon so you can skip this mortal coil and live in paradise?

The only passive aggressive threat being made is your passive-aggressiveness against God.

No you literally said you'll pray for me to die. That's all you asshole

On one hand, you say you want eternity without any sign of His goodness in the fire of Hell,

You can't have a god who has goodness as a quality but created a pit of fire for tossing sinful humans into. Those two things are totally contradictory.

and on the other hand you hate Him and want Him to be gone now.

I don't hate him, I just don't think he exists. But if we're assuming he exists for the sake of argument then yes I think he's a pretty horrible and unjust being worthy of disfavor.

You are committing a slow suicide, trying to forget time by smoking your brains out before time is all gone.

Life is a slow suicide.

If you want, I can pray that God will give you what you want without dragging time through a joint.

Why would I want to die? Your premise makes no sense.

Why don't you man up to your own words and ask me to pray God give you what you really want now?

Why don't you man up and quit believing in fucking fairy tales you brainwashed cunt?

Smoke a joint, chicken, and enjoy it while you can. You can't make God go away, you are only making yourself go to Hell....and God sent me here to try to talk some sense into you so you stop killing yourself and you just want to blow smoke at the messenger to kill my brain the way yours is being killed.

And you can't make god exist. As much as you want it to be true.

You're a pusher, do you know that? A pusher....dope head pusher pushing dope, and you think Hell does not have extra punishments for you?

I don't even sell weed lol. And if your god would punish someone for selling a plant on earth then your god is even more monstrously unjust then I first thought. You're a pusher. A pusher of nonsense. A pusher of idiotic myths. A pusher of an archaic view of reality that is at odds with all scientific progress in the last 1000 years. You're pushing a drug even more potent that marijuana. It's the opiate of the people. You spread your nonsense religion and suck people into abandoning rationality and abandoning a reasonable view of reality in favor of comforting stories and fairy tales and an imaginary friend who will hold your hand through life. Well wake up fuckhead. Nobody is holding your hand. Nobody is pulling the cosmic strings of your life. You're not that important. Get over yourself oh mighty messenger

The bones do not have ever increasingly human body structure

Yes they do. They show evidence of bipedal movement. The jaw structure changes. The hand structures change. The skull cavity gets larger and extends foward to house a larger frontal lobe. All of these things consistently change between hominids from different points in time.

They are dead. They are bones.

And? Just because they're dead and bones doesn't mean we can't learn shit from them.

If they are not human bones, they are dead bones which are only a pile of dead bones, not a pile of dead bones morphing into humans.

But if you have a skeleton from 2 million years ago, one from 1.5 million years ago, one from 1 million years ago, one from 500,000 years ago and one from today you can clearly see how these species continued to change in many ways over such a long period of time.

All you are doing is trying to convince yourself that your life is justified and your moral failures are meaningless

I don't need to prove shit to myself. I'm showing you that your "all atheists are immoral" belief is flat out wrong and has zero basis in reality.

....and then blame God who you say is not there for all of your problems.

I have never once blamed an imaginary character for my mistakes or other bad things that happen. But religion in general and Christianity in general can cause atrocities to occur absolutely.

You are setting yourself against God and losing the battle, but somehow the dope you smoke keeps you from seeing that you are winning nothing in death and losing everything in Hell which is the only place sin can be contained by everlasting fire.

I don't believe God or hell exists so that's a pretty empty threat. I smoke weed because it feels nice to relax every so often.

Laugh now, smoke another joint, and tell yourself how great you are if that's the way you want to go out.

That sounds like the best way to go out. Would you rather go out hating yourself and believing you're just a worthless little sinning piece of shit? That just sounds miserable. No wonder you hate most things that are fun in this world.

Jackass is an appropriate word, and I will not consider it as cussing or I would not respond to you in any detail.

Wait, so we get to decide what is and isnt a cussword? Then i dont consider tittyfucker a cussword so thats what ill call you now. Do you like that tittyfucker?

You indeed are as stubborn as a mule,

Well every time i read your arguments i go "HE-HAW!"

and I guess I can understand because you are afraid to be honest in admitting your moral depravity.

I'm an eagle scout in the BSA with over 200 hours of community service. K bud

It's ok, God knows what you did and He still loves you. He loves you so much that He died in your place, paid your price, so that in His resurrection you can be forgiven of the sins He died for, and that was for all of your sins....all your dirty deeds and evil doings, He died for them, to save you from Hell, because even though you were at enmity with Him, He loved you and still loves you.

Oh sweet then im good then. Brb gonna shoot up a planned parenthood

How about i prove i exist by mailing you an ounce of that dank OG Kush? And its funny, if im going to hell then i have everything to live for and should cherish every second of life. But you go to a better place than this. So why dont you wanna just off yourself and claim your prize?