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 For those who believe in a soul, why? (30)

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For those who believe in a soul, why?

To those the believe that is a soul, or perhaps some other non-corporeal aspect of our lives, why do you believe this? What is your evidence or logic behind such a belief?

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I like to believe that we're more than the makeup of our brain, sending electric impulses, and our genetics and personal experiences.

As in, if someone were to somehow replicate all that of someone I knew and replace them with the copy, that wouldn't sit right with me. The copy, however well made, wouldn't feel the same (like it's a different soul). Of course, you wouldn't even notice a perfect clone replacement, being a perfect clone and all, so this feeling doesn't really hold up against logic, or anything really, apart from my irrational heart. But who wants to think that, once (if?) we reach some technological level that allows this to happen, we can just just keep replacing each other?

It's just a nice, probably ultimately wrong, thought. But nice all the same.

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I will tag this as support since you got right to the heart of my thought process on this one: that belief in the soul is, at its heart, just a big warm fuzzy.

That being said, it makes me a bit sad that people choose to believe in something that has no scrap of evidence, just because the belief makes them happy.

I guess it doesn't really help us learn, become more advanced people, and I can see why that could be sad, but what's moving forward if we don't feel satisfied with it? At least, that's what I make of it all.

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I don't know if I believe in a soul as supposed by you or anyone else but.....If a "Transporter"device was invented, similar to what was imagined by the creators of Startrek, no matter how many people safely used it, I wouldn't be interested at all in using it to get from one pace to another.

Would you?

imrigone(761) Disputed
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One can assume that if such technology was widely available and heavily used, if it somehow twisted or changed our personalities, or left us "without a soul", that such side effects would be well documented. Provided such a condition did not exist, I would have no problems using the tech.

I don't know if I believe in a soul as supposed by you or anyone else

I used "soul" because in the Western, English-speaking world, this term is the most famous way to get my point across. However, in my debate description, I did also say "or perhaps some other non-corporeal aspect of our lives". Metaphysical specifics aside, I am speaking of a completely unproven concept that has permeated virtually all cultures in history. I'm just asking why modern believers believe.

atypican(4875) Disputed
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It seems like you are comfortable assuming that an exact replica of you is truly still you. I would not be comfortable making such an assumption.

Even if there was no known way to tell the difference between the person sent and the one who arrives, it wouldn't stop me from thinking of it as a situation where one person is dematerialized in one place and another person albeit just like them was materialized in another location.

this term is the most famous way to get my point across.

Can you please tell me what point you'd like to make about believing in a soul? I am a little slow to catch on sometimes

in my debate description, I did also say "or perhaps some other non-corporeal aspect of our lives"

Ok. I consider that the ideas that I entertain, and the ones I accept and attempt to propagate, are "real parts" so to speak of who I am. I think each individual makes a continually developing impression on the very fabric (for lack of a better word) of reality and that this impression as far as I can tell will continue in one form or another endlessly. If I called that continually developing impression on reality a soul and said that I believed that souls exist in this sense, would that conform closely enough with the unproven concept of soul that you see permeating virtually all cultures?

Where passions lie, so must a soul lie. How can one put their heart and soul into something, if they have no soul?

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imrigone(761) Disputed
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Tell me, what is passion? And how do you know that it, or any aspect of our personality/emotional life is not dictated by the physical architecture of our nervous system.

How can one put their heart and soul into something, if they have no soul?

Because of poor semantics...

Side: What drives passion
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
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Merriam-Webster defines passion as : 3) the state or capacity of being acted on by external agents or forces

The nervous system is internal not external and therefore cannot be the force.

Supporting Evidence: Definition of Passion (www.merriam-webster.com)
Side: What drives passion